Vortex III with 4GB Nvidia GeForce GTX 680M

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PCS

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We are planning our Q3/Q4 schedule and as many of your are aware the 4GB Nvidia GeForce GTX 680M will be released during this period and we expect to receive stock from September onwards, according to the current schedule.

We are seeing pricing that is approximately £180 more than the 2GB HD 7970M but according to benchmark performance tests it will only be around 10% faster than the 2GB Radeon HD 7970M. Would you pay £180 for this?
 
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jacobpov

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wow that's really bad and its not worth the extra money ! Unless you like the special features geforce brings such as physx which give 1 percent difference while you are playing (and not all games support it ).
 
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Daymos

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I commend your approach in keeping potential customers in the loop.

I also think its smart from a business perspective to do your research to see if there will be a demand for this.

Personally I wouldnt but it but there will be a game thats power hungry and some hardcore will but it just to keep up and/or veryfy their bragging rights to friends at school.


Howeever I'm grown and cant affort to buy a vortex 3 just for games.. ~I plan to make that oney back..

ill be placing my order as soon as the 2GB Radeon HD 7970M is avaliable with 32gb 1600mhz ram.

Saying that.. im building a beast for 3ds max and also video editing etc..

With all that ram I could probably render a video in the background and play a game with fairly decent settings in the foreground. :)
 
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marhask

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It depends on athor details of the card like tdp, operating temperatures and batteri life. As we know for now the enduro in amd isn't working that good like nvidia optimus, And also it will depend on ingame performance coz a lot of games run better on nvdia card. Plus there is a lot od people that prefer driver stability of nvidia over amd. I think that there will be a lot of customers interested in buyng this card when it comes out, but for now on the 7970m is the way to go. hope the delay for the radeon wont be that long and i'll be having one of them soon :)
 
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BrokenKross

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I've been waiting to get a new P150EM with a high end Kepler in it, rather than a rebadged and overclocked Fermi, although I wouldn't mind dropping £2k+ on a new laptop that I won't be replacing for 5+ years. Still, I hate the idea of having to wait until September, since I've been waiting before Ivy Bridge was released, it's only the Kepler card that has stopped me from ordering so far.

~ If anybody is wondering why I don't pick up a 7970, I work at a place that is CUDA mad, this won't (just) for gaming, I'll be earning my wages from it, unless they completely scrap CUDA... The joys of a wandering developer...
 
dangro474

dangro474

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I certainly would pay £180.00 for a 680M over a 7970M. It is worth it for those of us who i would not necessarily label as "Nvidia Fanboys", but who have come to consider the level of compatability and efficiency of Nvidia drivers as the standard.

I have nothing against ATI and recognise that the 5870M and 6990M trumped their Nvidia counterparts in terms of price/performance ratio, however poor driver support (relative) and lack of proper vsync and triple buffering support via CCC always lead me to opt for the Nvidia counterpart.

As I currently own a 580M system and although I have been salvating over the 7970M for a good few months now, I would gladly wait until September to pick up a card that may only be 10% faster at a 50% price increase (10% overall system price increase for me), but also provides me with peace of mind.

Plus as a general rule when it comes to laptop GPU's, unless the price increase is absolutely ludicrous, always go for the best you can afford. An increase in performance of 10% may allow certain games to break the 60 FPS mark rather than sitting on the edge or just below.

I would still be willing to upgrade one of my existing Vortex II's to a 7970M if they are confirmed as working in the HM chassis and PCS are able to offer the service.
 
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Maestro

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You make a very good point Dangro474 about the overall price increase, and not just the difference in cost of the card.

If you are spending £1500 on a system with 7970m and decide to change to GTX 680M then you are in effect getting a 10% performance increase for and overall 10% price increase. Seems fair to me, if you look at the laptop as whole and not seperate bits with seperate values.
 
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ArcusSpartan

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But if you are going to think like that, Will it actually be a 10% performance increase over the entire system? That is why we compare these things by the lowest common denominator.
 
dangro474

dangro474

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I understand that this may not be possible until a later date, but I would love confirmation that PCS will indeed offer the 680M as an option, as I would like to set money aside for it.
 
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Rsaeire

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I'd just like there to be more AMD GPU options available for the 17.3" Vortex II. While this is a gaming laptop and higher spec'd GPUs are the order of the day, I love the chassis so I'm willing to buy it with the lowest end Nvidia GPU on offer. I would, in fact, settle for integrated graphics, but I've been told by PC Specialist that this isn't possible due to the current system layout.
 
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Finn

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Rsaeire said:
I'd just like there to be more AMD GPU options available for the 17.3" Vortex II. While this is a gaming laptop and higher spec'd GPUs are the order of the day, I love the chassis so I'm willing to buy it with the lowest end Nvidia GPU on offer. I would, in fact, settle for integrated graphics, but I've been told by PC Specialist that this isn't possible due to the current system layout.
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Personally speaking, after having my vortex 3 for a couple of weeks now, whilst I love it for gaming I dont think the keyboard layout is the best for working on. I'm a programmer so I pretty much solely use the keyboard and not the mouse and I find the keyboard a little frustrating to work on. The main issue is the moved windows key, backslash key and I sometimes find tab to be slightly non responsive - it always works if I use a a positive two fingered tab, but often doesnt work with a light one fingered press.

I dont know what you intend to use the laptop for but if you dont want dedicated graphics I'd personally go for a different chassis - possibly the genesis for the more traditional keyboard layout and the *much* lighter carry weight. The PSU on the vortex is huge to drive the powerhungry GPU so again if you dont need it thats jut extra weight to carry.
 
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Rsaeire

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I definitely want to go for a 17.3" laptop, as I find 15" laptops too small. As such, this would rule out the Genesis. I do appreciate your recommendation, however, and I'm currently reassessing which PC Specialist laptop I want.

I plan to buy a laptop for web design so I'd be using Dreamweaver, Photoshop etc. I currently have a 17.3" Dell laptop with a 1920 x 1200 resolution so I'm, of course, going to miss the extra 120 pixels but there are always going to be trade-offs when trying to balance needs vs. budget.

I've been trawling the Internet for weeks looking for a suitable laptop and only came upon Clevo laptops by chance. I didn't factor Clevo laptops into the options I was considering as the models I've read about in the past have always been priced at around £2-3000. Given this, I never thought there would be models available in my price range. I've already disregarded HP, due to issues read on these forums, as well as others, regarding their Envy line. I won't be buying from Dell or Acer due to a mixture of personal experience and feedback from others. A few of the other brands' laptops either don't have the right mix of features, have questionable build quality or just look cheap/crap, so I'm left with very few choices. I do like Asus's G7x range but, again, they're geared more towards gamers and even though I'm a PC gamer myself, I have a desktop to meet those needs so I don't require a laptop for that purpose.

If you, or any other forum members, have any other suggestions, please feel free to let me know as I really am anxious to buy a laptop relatively soon; there's only so much time I can waste on waiting for programs to take forever to open and carry out tasks!
 
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PCS

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dangro474 said:
I understand that this may not be possible until a later date, but I would love confirmation that PCS will indeed offer the 680M as an option, as I would like to set money aside for it.
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I can confirm that we will be stocking the Vortex III with 680M :)
 
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charley farley

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PCS, I've been waiting specifically for this card in a 15.6 Vortex III (I assume it will be available in the 15.6 as well as the 17.3?).

So yes, you can count me as a guaranteed sale should you provide it as an option.
 
ObserverJLin

ObserverJLin

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PCS said:
We are planning our Q3/Q4 schedule and as many of your are aware the 4GB Nvidia GeForce GTX 680M will be released during this period and we expect to receive stock from September onwards, according to the current schedule.

We are seeing pricing that is approximately £180 more than the 2GB HD 7970M but according to benchmark performance tests it will only be around 10% faster than the 2GB Radeon HD 7970M. Would you pay £180 for this?
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What about the 2GB GTX 680M? Is that coming out anytime soon? And as for the 10% extra performance for £180. I'm sure we are all use to N charging more for their cards of the same generation compared to A cards. Just look at the 6990M and 580M. 580M was £150+ extra if I remember correct? But there will always be those willing to pay extra for the CUDA Cores. But just for gaming and little extra render times in H.264 I think I'll be very happy with 7970M. Leave 680M for ppl with $$$ to burn.

P.s How do you know 680m is gonna be 10% faster than 7970m? When N saw 7970m they knew it was way more powerful than theirs so they went back to the drawing board thus delaying 680m. Probably because they changed it from gk106 to gk104? Is that where the 10% boost comes from?
 
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ObserverJLin

ObserverJLin

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The more I think about it the more p!ssed I am. How could Nvidia/PCS charge £180 extra than 7970m for a 680m??? From the default 670m to 7970m is £170. From default 670m to 680m would then be £170+£180=£350. I mean that is just f4cking ridiculous. That's more expensive than a desktop GTX 670, whom everyone knows is only 5% slower than a destktop GTX 680.
The more I think about the more I am p!ssed.

The most I am willing to pay for a 680m is £50 more than 7970m. So from default 670m to 680m: £220. Anything more than that is stupid for a card that is going to be outdated in a year or maybe even less.
 
Luxas

Luxas

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ObserverJLin said:
The more I think about it the more p!ssed I am. How could Nvidia/PCS charge £180 extra than 7970m for a 680m??? From the default 670m to 7970m is £170. From default 670m to 680m would then be £170+£180=£350. I mean that is just f4cking ridiculous. That's more expensive than a desktop GTX 670, whom everyone knows is only 5% slower than a destktop GTX 680.
The more I think about the more I am p!ssed.

The most I am willing to pay for a 680m is £50 more than 7970m. So from default 670m to 680m: £220. Anything more than that is stupid for a card that is going to be outdated in a year or maybe even less.
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agree mate! Also I just wanted to point out that ppl place HUGE interest in 7970m. It's like some sort of revolution. Thus I got a feeling there will be a lot of drivers to choose from. Official or not - do u really care?
 
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