New Laptop Opinion - Recoil Series: 16" Matte QHD 240Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560x1600)

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MathersMahmood

Bronze Level Poster
Hello,

I would like to purchase a new laptop for gaming.

I am not too bothered about the thickness as I will be using my car for transportation soon.

I do not want the liquid cooling as i already have a tower PC and this Laptop is mainly going to be used for portability.

Does anyone notice any issues with the below specs?

Thank you!

Chassis & Display
Recoil Series: 16" Matte QHD 240Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560x1600)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 24 Core Processor 14900HX (5.8GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 5600MHz SODIMM DDR5 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 4080 - 12.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 330W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Recoil Series Integrated 99WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
LIQUID METAL PERFORMANCE COOLING
Sound Card
Nahimic by SteelSeries 2 Channel HD Audio
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® KILLER™ Wi-Fi 6E AX1675i + BT 5.3
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x THUNDERBOLT 4 + 1 x USB 3.2 (TYPE C) + 3 x USB 3.2
Keyboard Language
RECOIL 16 SERIES RGB BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED IR+FHD Hybrid Webcam Windows Hello 4.0
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (6 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Chassis
TongFang GM6IX8B (12GB RTX-4080, i9-14900HX, 240Hz QHD)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 3 to 5 working days
Price: £2,388.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/recoil-II-16/DBJXRSGmvX/
 
Tron1982

Tron1982

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Hello,
What's you budget ? Because without this information, we can't really help you.

And some general thoughts :
- get the golden warranty and the 1 year dead pixel guarantee
- the watercooling solution is, more or less, mandatory to use the laptop at his fullest
- don't take norton, it's a pain to remove ... and windows defender do the job nowadays
 
M

MathersMahmood

Bronze Level Poster
Tron1982 said:
Hello,
What's you budget ? Because without this information, we can't really help you.

And some general thoughts :
- get the golden warranty and the 1 year dead pixel guarantee
- the watercooling solution is, more or less, mandatory to use the laptop at his fullest
- don't take norton, it's a pain to remove ... and windows defender do the job nowadays
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Hello. I don’t have a budget to be honest

I’ve been reading how the liquid cooling is mandatory which is a shame. This puts me if the laptop. I’m guessing the laptops that don’t have it as an option may be safer bet?

I really don’t want it to throttle.
 
Tron1982

Tron1982

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
MathersMahmood said:
Hello. I don’t have a budget to be honest

I’ve been reading how the liquid cooling is mandatory which is a shame. This puts me if the laptop. I’m guessing the laptops that don’t have it as an option may be safer bet?

I really don’t want it to throttle.
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I totally agree with you about the "optional" watercooling situation ...
I'm not sure to understand what you mean by "This puts me if the laptop" ^^"

The second point is, what will you do with your laptop ? Game, office work, dev, etc ?
 
M

MathersMahmood

Bronze Level Poster
Tron1982 said:
I totally agree with you about the "optional" watercooling situation ...
I'm not sure to understand what you mean by "This puts me if the laptop" ^^"

The second point is, what will you do with your laptop ? Game, office work, dev, etc ?
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My apologies I meant to say that if I need the water cooling that would be counterproductive as I want to use the laptop as a mobile device as I already have a beastly PC that I purchased this year.

I am going to be using it for gaming and work. I was looking into the 4070 but I feel nvidia have deliberately gimped it to make people get the 4080.
 
Tron1982

Tron1982

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
MathersMahmood said:
My apologies I meant to say that if I need the water cooling that would be counterproductive as I want to use the laptop as a mobile device as I already have a beastly PC that I purchased this year.

I am going to be using it for gaming and work. I was looking into the 4070 but I feel nvidia have deliberately gimped it to make people get the 4080.
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Ok ^^
Maybe, maybe not, but not impossible ^^"

So, if I understand well, you'll use this laptop when you'll be on the move ? May I say that the performances will not be as much important as if it was your only computer ?
In that case, you can go for a less powerful laptop without throttle (the 15" ionico for exemple) or still going for this recoil and it may throttle from time to time (knowing that the 4080 heat less than the 4090) ...

The second option may be the best one, and if necessary, you'll be able to buy the watercooling later.

Oh, and, about your configuration, I tend to use samsung ssd, but it's a matter of preferences.
 
M

MathersMahmood

Bronze Level Poster
Tron1982 said:
Ok ^^
Maybe, maybe not, but not impossible ^^"

So, if I understand well, you'll use this laptop when you'll be on the move ? May I say that the performances will not be as much important as if it was your only computer ?
In that case, you can go for a less powerful laptop without throttle (the 15" ionico for exemple) or still going for this recoil and it may throttle from time to time (knowing that the 4080 heat less than the 4090) ...

The second option may be the best one, and if necessary, you'll be able to buy the watercooling later.

Oh, and, about your configuration, I tend to use samsung ssd, but it's a matter of preferences.
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I want to be sensible this time around when building. I have a very powerful full spec PC that I bought this year from PCS that has all the bells and whistles.

So I’m thinking I don’t mind getting a 15” with a 4070 and then rely on my pc for the more demanding titles.

I’m only going to be playing mainly Diablo 4 on my laptop.
 
Tron1982

Tron1982

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Hi, sorry, the meeting was longer than i thought XD

So, i saw 2 chassis that may fit your needs, the ionico 15" (that may be compared to a smaller 16" recoil), or, a little bit less powerfull, the 16" defiance.

Before giving you the spec', this is my thoughts about the 2 chassis :
- the ionico is more powerful due to the I9 cpu, but with the 4070, i'm not sure that the power of the cpu will be ever really used, so it look a little bit unbalanced to me. So, unless you'll have use of the cpu power, it may be paying for something not necessary.
- the defiance is a little bit bigger, 16", with a less powerful cpu, an I7, that may be more balanced with the 4070. What can be useful is that it has 3 ssd slot, for future upgrade. To be noted, it has a usb 3 port less than the ionico and a smaller battery (half the size, 54MW instead of 99). I almost missed it, but it look like the ram is only 4800MHz instead of 5600Mhz too.


So, the two possible chassis choice that may answer your needs ^^

The more powerful and expensive 15 ionico

Chassis & Display
Ionico Series: 15.3" Matte QHD 240Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560x1600)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 24 Core Processor 14900HX (5.8GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 5600MHz SODIMM DDR5 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 4070 - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated Micro-SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 280W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Ionico Battery 99WH
Thermal Paste
PHASE CHANGE THERMAL PAD COOLING (PTM7950)
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® KILLER™ Wi-Fi 6E AX1675i + BT 5.3
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x THUNDERBOLT 4 + 1 x USB 3.2 (TYPE C) + 3 x USB 3.2
Keyboard Language
IONICO 15 SERIES RGB BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED IR+FHD Hybrid Webcam Windows Hello 4.0
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Dead Pixel Guarantee
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
TongFang GM5IX7A (8GB RTX-4070, i9-14900HX, 240Hz QHD)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 3 to 5 working days
Price: £2,106.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/ionico-IV-15/fqTh8sHT48/


The bigger more balanced (even if less powerful) and cheaper defiance :

Chassis & Display
Defiance Series: 16" Matte QHD 240Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560 x 1600)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 16 Core Processor 14650HX (5.2GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 4800MHz SODIMM DDR5 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 4070 - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated Micro-SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre Cloverleaf UK Power Cable
Battery
1 x Defiance Battery 54WH
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® KILLER™ Wi-Fi 6E AX1675i + BT 5.3
USB/Thunderbolt Options
2 x USB 3.2 PORTS (Type C) + 2 x USB 3.2 PORTS
Keyboard Language
DEFIANCE MULTI COLOUR BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 2.0 MP FULL HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Dead Pixel Guarantee
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
Clevo V360SNEQ (8GB RTX-4070, i7-14650HX, AX211,QHD 240Hz, Blank KB)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 3 to 5 working days
Price: £1,806.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/defiance-16/CwwuPS9D2B/

If you have any questions, i'll answer them ^^
And tell me which one you'll chose ^^
 
M

MathersMahmood

Bronze Level Poster
Tron1982 said:
Hi, sorry, the meeting was longer than i thought XD

So, i saw 2 chassis that may fit your needs, the ionico 15" (that may be compared to a smaller 16" recoil), or, a little bit less powerfull, the 16" defiance.

Before giving you the spec', this is my thoughts about the 2 chassis :
- the ionico is more powerful due to the I9 cpu, but with the 4070, i'm not sure that the power of the cpu will be ever really used, so it look a little bit unbalanced to me. So, unless you'll have use of the cpu power, it may be paying for something not necessary.
- the defiance is a little bit bigger, 16", with a less powerful cpu, an I7, that may be more balanced with the 4070. What can be useful is that it has 3 ssd slot, for future upgrade. To be noted, it has a usb 3 port less than the ionico and a smaller battery (half the size, 54MW instead of 99). I almost missed it, but it look like the ram is only 4800MHz instead of 5600Mhz too.


So, the two possible chassis choice that may answer your needs ^^

The more powerful and expensive 15 ionico

Chassis & Display
Ionico Series: 15.3" Matte QHD 240Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560x1600)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 24 Core Processor 14900HX (5.8GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 5600MHz SODIMM DDR5 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 4070 - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated Micro-SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 280W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Ionico Battery 99WH
Thermal Paste
PHASE CHANGE THERMAL PAD COOLING (PTM7950)
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® KILLER™ Wi-Fi 6E AX1675i + BT 5.3
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x THUNDERBOLT 4 + 1 x USB 3.2 (TYPE C) + 3 x USB 3.2
Keyboard Language
IONICO 15 SERIES RGB BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED IR+FHD Hybrid Webcam Windows Hello 4.0
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Dead Pixel Guarantee
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
TongFang GM5IX7A (8GB RTX-4070, i9-14900HX, 240Hz QHD)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 3 to 5 working days
Price: £2,106.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/ionico-IV-15/fqTh8sHT48/


The bigger more balanced (even if less powerful) and cheaper defiance :

Chassis & Display
Defiance Series: 16" Matte QHD 240Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560 x 1600)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 16 Core Processor 14650HX (5.2GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 4800MHz SODIMM DDR5 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 4070 - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated Micro-SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre Cloverleaf UK Power Cable
Battery
1 x Defiance Battery 54WH
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® KILLER™ Wi-Fi 6E AX1675i + BT 5.3
USB/Thunderbolt Options
2 x USB 3.2 PORTS (Type C) + 2 x USB 3.2 PORTS
Keyboard Language
DEFIANCE MULTI COLOUR BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 2.0 MP FULL HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Dead Pixel Guarantee
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
Clevo V360SNEQ (8GB RTX-4070, i7-14650HX, AX211,QHD 240Hz, Blank KB)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 3 to 5 working days
Price: £1,806.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/defiance-16/CwwuPS9D2B/

If you have any questions, i'll answer them ^^
And tell me which one you'll chose ^^
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Thanks for this i will look into this!
 
P

Paul1964

Member
If it was going to be your only PC I would have said go for the recoil 16 and run it on water at home and on air when out and about. The air cooling will be as good as most other similar spec laptops.

The benefit of the water cooling is quieter fans when under load and of course the extra thermal headroom it affords.

On air, the Recoil 16 should pretty much match other 14900HX/RTX 4080 laptops.
 
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