Buyers remorse?

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BeastyTW

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Hey guys,

I'm currently on day 11 of pre-production for the following gaming build.
Starting to have second thoughts on my choices and would like to ask you guys for your opinion, please.

Currently have a Dell P2721Q - 4k monitor 60hz
(Not ideal for gaming, but it's a first gaming PC and I'll upgrade the screen in the months to come to something more fitting for a 3070ti.)

I have two things I would really like to hear your thoughts on. (Obviously, if you have any other suggestions, I'd love to hear them)

1. CPU - 3700x vs 5800x vs 5600x (paired with 3070ti)
2. Wifi/Motherboard - For the first few months I'll be needing to use wifi, have a 500mbps connection.
- Should I go with an external wifi card as listed in the spec, and a non-wifi motherboard? or change to b550 plus wifi.

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LIAN LI LANCOOL 215 GAMING CASE
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AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 Ti - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3000MB/sR | 1600MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i RGB PRO XT Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
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doates

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5600x is just so good defo worth getting.

In regards to wifi id avoid it tbh. especially for online gaming. Have you ever tried power adapters?
 
JUNI0R

JUNI0R

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BeastyTW said:
Hey guys,

I'm currently on day 11 of pre-production for the following gaming build.
Starting to have second thoughts on my choices and would like to ask you guys for your opinion, please.

Currently have a Dell P2721Q - 4k monitor 60hz
(Not ideal for gaming, but it's a first gaming PC and I'll upgrade the screen in the months to come to something more fitting for a 3070ti.)

I have two things I would really like to hear your thoughts on. (Obviously, if you have any other suggestions, I'd love to hear them)

1. CPU - 3700x vs 5800x vs 5600x (paired with 3070ti)
2. Wifi/Motherboard - For the first few months I'll be needing to use wifi, have a 500mbps connection.
- Should I go with an external wifi card as listed in the spec, and a non-wifi motherboard? or change to b550 plus wifi.

Link to re-config:

PCSPECIALIST - Top Spec Custom PCs & Laptops Built to Order

Manufacturer of performance custom computers and laptops. Customise your ideal gaming PC or laptop using our advanced configurator.
www.pcspecialist.co.uk www.pcspecialist.co.uk


Case
LIAN LI LANCOOL 215 GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 Ti - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3000MB/sR | 1600MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i RGB PRO XT Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
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FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
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NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Mouse Pad
PCS Mouse Mat - XXL
Surge Protection
6 Socket 2m Surge Protector
Cable Management
PCS 1.5M Zip Cable Tidy - Professional Cable Management
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 18 to 21 working days
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Hi there! Before we give any advice, we'll need some more info

1) Budget- How much are you looking to spend?
2) Uses- You've mentioned gaming, what sort of games will you be playing? Will you be doing anything else with the PC?

Also as the title is "buyers remorse" I thought I'd let you know that you don't need to cancel your order to make changes, PCS allows you to amend the order without losing your place in the queue, so you can be happy and not lose out on any of that sweet gaming time!
 
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BeastyTW

Member
JUNI0R said:
Hi there! Before we give any advice, we'll need some more info

1) Budget- How much are you looking to spend?
2) Uses- You've mentioned gaming, what sort of games will you be playing? Will you be doing anything else with the PC?

Also as the title is "buyers remorse" I thought I'd let you know that you don't need to cancel your order to make changes, PCS allows you to amend the order without losing your place in the queue, so you can be happy and not lose out on any of that sweet gaming time!
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Hi!
Thanks for taking the time to help.

Budget - I'd like to stay somewhere between 1700-2000.
Games- Going to try some of the new shooters coming up, Call of duty, Battlefield, and older games such as Diablo2 Remastered, Starcraft 2.
Uses - Casual gaming, combined with my very competitive nature :cool:; also some minimal photoshop work.

Buyers remorse - Yeah, I figured out I can change spec as many times as I want as long as I'm still in pre-production. I'm just constantly second-guessing my choices. It's my first gaming PC after 10+ years of being on Apple MacBook Pros, and I'd finally like to be able to try various types of games.
 
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DarTon

Well-known member
As @JUNI0R says it helps to know your budget, purpose and what monitor you plan to pair it with (i.e. are you keeping the Dell 27 4K, replacing it or adding to it etc).

Even without those bits of info though, your build is sub-optimal. The 8 core 3700X CPU is outperformed by the 5600X by 15-20% in single core terms and it's a basically a wash in multi-core terms. Given the 5600X is current generation vs. 3700X being prior gen, there is no downside to switching to the 5600X. It even saves you £20!

With a 5600X, you probably could downgrade to a B550 board (say the TUF B550 Wifi if you wish). This does drop PCIe4 compatability from one of the two M2, but you've only selected PCIe3 drives anyway. Also with a 5600X you don't need such an expensive cooler etc. So you could definately do a cheaper build with a 5600X.
 
Martinr36

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Here's a top end of budget 5600x build

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® STRIX B550-F GAMING (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 Ti - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR | 2500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
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Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 18 to 21 working days
Price: £2,037.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/XvQdPURm9Q/
 
JUNI0R

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Thanks for the info @BeastyTW! Very nice build from Martin above although feel you could definetly save in a few areas if you wanted to

Regarding monitors, you mentioned you plan to change after a while, for the 3070TI, it's a bit of a beast so I'd personally recommend a 1440p ultrawide like the AOC CU34G2X. It'll be one fantastic experience and smooth as butter with a 70TI!

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 MESH ARGB GAMING CASE The 5000X is lovely but very expensive and you could save a bit here. The TD500 is a fantasitc high airflow case
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS WiFi (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready! The STRIX board isn't necessary for the 5600X although it does look nice. Having the WiFi version is cheaper than adding a wifi card
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 Ti - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR | 2500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler Black Edition You won't need a 280mm AIO for a 6 core CPU. The 212 is fantastic value and will do you just fine
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
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Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 18 to 21 working days
Price: £1,872.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/exG!rCB7!f/
 
Martinr36

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JUNI0R said:
Thanks for the info @BeastyTW! Very nice build from Martin above although feel you could definetly save in a few areas if you wanted to

Regarding monitors, you mentioned you plan to change after a while, for the 3070TI, it's a bit of a beast so I'd personally recommend a 1440p ultrawide like the AOC CU34G2X. It'll be one fantastic experience and smooth as butter with a 70TI!

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 MESH ARGB GAMING CASE The 5000X is lovely but very expensive and you could save a bit here. The TD500 is a fantasitc high airflow case
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS WiFi (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready! The STRIX board isn't necessary for the 5600X although it does look nice. Having the WiFi version is cheaper than adding a wifi card
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 Ti - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR | 2500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler Black Edition You won't need a 280mm AIO for a 6 core CPU. The 212 is fantastic value and will do you just fine
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Mouse Pad
PCS Mouse Mat - XXL
Cable Management
PCS 1.5M Zip Cable Tidy - Professional Cable Management
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 18 to 21 working days
Price: £1,872.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/exG!rCB7!f/
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Oh i'll happily admit I was aiming top end, but yeah wholeheartedly agree on monitor, Ultrawide is definitely the way to go for 3070 Ti
 
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