CPU Cooling - Water or Fan?

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XSuperDan

Member
Looking to buy this pc, the water cooler or fan is roughly the same price, this was a prebuilt with the fan as default but I changed to water cooling, is it worth changing or should I change back to fan???

Case


CORSAIR 3000D AIRFLOW MID TOWER GAMING CASE


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Processor (CPU)


Intel® Core™ i7 12-Core Processor i7-12700KF (Up to 5.0GHz) 25MB Cache


Motherboard


ASUS® PRIME B760-PLUS D4 (LGA1700, DDR4, PCIe 5.0)


Memory (RAM)


32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)


Graphics Card


16GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4060 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR


Graphics Card Support Bracket


NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)


1st M.2 SSD Drive


1TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 2950MB/sW)


Power Supply


CORSAIR 750W RMe SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET


Power Cable


1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)


Processor Cooling


PCS FrostFlow 240 Series ARGB High Performance Liquid Cooler


Thermal Paste


STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING


Sound Card


ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)


Network Card


ONBOARD LAN PORT


USB/Thunderbolt Options


MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

PCS Corsair Carton Upright


Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z690-pc/3KKm!q4FbM/
 
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TonyCarter

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If you have a read of the note/advice in the thread below (e.g. budget, monitor specs/model, usage, etc.), I'm sure someone will offer their assistance.

But I don't think I'll put anyone's nose out of joint by stating that they'll probably recommend a few changes (especially to a current gen AMD CPU on a new platform vs an old Intel CPU on a dead platform).

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XSuperDan

Member
TonyCarter said:
If you have a read of the note/advice in the thread below (e.g. budget, monitor specs/model, usage, etc.), I'm sure someone will offer their assistance.

But I don't think I'll put anyone's nose out of joint by stating that they'll probably recommend a few changes (especially to a current gen AMD CPU on a new platform vs an old Intel CPU on a dead platform).

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Apologies, please see below

Asus 1440p 120hz monitor x2
Budget £1200-£1400
General gaming, sea of thieves, age of empires, RuneScape
 
SpyderTracks

SpyderTracks

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I don't think anyone would recommend an Intel build these days, aside from being beaten for less price by AMD, they run crazy hot to the point the chips actually warp and the solution to stop this has been banned by Intel and will void warranty.

And that CPU chipset is several years out of date now anyway, but it looks like Intel may be forced to either issue a recall for millions of current and last gen chips, or severely throttle their performance by limiting voltages and clocks to avoid silicon meltdown.

XSuperDan said:
Asus 1440p 120hz monitor x2
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Are you sure that's correct? Could we have the model? I've never heard of a 120Hz gaming display at 1440p?
 
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XSuperDan

Member
SpyderTracks said:
I don't think anyone would recommend an Intel build these days, aside from being beaten for less price by AMD, they run crazy hot to the point the chips actually warp and the solution to stop this has been banned by Intel and will void warranty.

And that CPU chipset is several years out of date now anyway, but it looks like Intel may be forced to either issue a recall for millions of current and last gen chips, or severely throttle their performance by limiting voltages and clocks to avoid silicon meltdown.


Are you sure that's correct? Could we have the model? I've never heard of a 120Hz gaming display at 1440p?
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Oh right I’ll go for the amd ones, I just checked the monitors they are 27inch mai curved 165hz so I got it completely wrong. What and chip would you recommend?
 
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XSuperDan

Member
SpyderTracks said:
I don't think anyone would recommend an Intel build these days, aside from being beaten for less price by AMD, they run crazy hot to the point the chips actually warp and the solution to stop this has been banned by Intel and will void warranty.

And that CPU chipset is several years out of date now anyway, but it looks like Intel may be forced to either issue a recall for millions of current and last gen chips, or severely throttle their performance by limiting voltages and clocks to avoid silicon meltdown.


Are you sure that's correct? Could we have the model? I've never heard of a 120Hz gaming display at 1440p?
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How about this?
Case


CORSAIR 3000D AIRFLOW MID TOWER GAMING CASE


Processor (CPU)


AMD Ryzen 7 7700 Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-5.3GHz/40MB CACHE/AM5)


Motherboard


GIGABYTE X670 AORUS ELITE AX (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6E)


Memory (RAM)


16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 5200MHz (2 x 8GB)


Graphics Card


12GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7700 XT GAMING - HDMI, DP - DX® 12


Graphics Card Support Bracket


NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)


1st M.2 SSD Drive


1TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 2950MB/sW)


Power Supply


CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET


Power Cable


1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)


Processor Cooling


PCS FrostFlow 240 Series ARGB High Performance Liquid Cooler


Thermal Paste


STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING


Sound Card


ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)


Network Card


ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT


USB/Thunderbolt Options


MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS


Operating System


NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED


Operating System Language


United Kingdom - English Language


Windows Recovery Media


NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED


Office Software


FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)


Anti-Virus


Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License


Browser


Microsoft® Edge


Warranty


3 Year Standard Warranty (6 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)


Delivery


STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)


Build Time


FAST TRACK 5 WORKING DAY DISPATCH


Price: £1,483.00 including VAT and Delivery


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SpyderTracks

SpyderTracks

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Without knowing the monitor we can't really advise? Just need to be certain of the monitors capabilities, as if it's an old TN panel or doesn't have VRR, then we may need to factor in a suitable decent monitor, otherwise no matter what PC you buy, the output is all done by the monitor, so that would be a bottleneck possibly.

SpyderTracks said:
Are you sure that's correct? Could we have the model? I've never heard of a 120Hz gaming display at 1440p?
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XSuperDan

Member
SpyderTracks said:
Without knowing the monitor we can't really advise? Just need to be certain of the monitors capabilities, as if it's an old TN panel or doesn't have VRR, then we may need to factor in a suitable decent monitor, otherwise no matter what PC you buy, the output is all done by the monitor, so that would be a bottleneck possibly.
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Gigabyte Aorus CV27Q 27inch Curved 165HZ 1440P
 
SpyderTracks

SpyderTracks

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XSuperDan said:
Yeah I got a bit trigger happy, I can push to £1500 if it makes a big difference.
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Cool, thanks, sorry, but we need this upfront otherwise it tends to be quite a back and forth process.

This is where I'd land, prices are still crazy and this is already making sacrifices on the GPU and CPU more than I'd like, ideally it would be the 7800X3D along with the 7800XT GPU. I've left out a secondary SSD which I would suggest picking up one dedicated for games but that's really simple to do yourself when you have the cash, I'd suggest something like the P41 2Tb would be ideal and they're not expensive, or if you want a solid budget option, the Crucial P3 2Tb is quite a bit cheaper and very reliable. Without doing that I couldn't get it in budget. But this is a good all rounder and gives you upgrade paths on the CPU and GPU pretty much as high as you want to go so will last a long time

Here's a review with benchmarks of the 7700XT: https://gamersnexus.net/gpus/amd-rx...enchmarks-vs-7800-xt-6800-xt-rtx-4060-ti-more

Case
CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7700 Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-5.3GHz/40MB CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7700 XT GAMING - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR H100x RGB ELITE HIGH PERFORMANCE CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Price: £1,500.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/2VuGWWXeY3/
 
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XSuperDan

Member
SpyderTracks said:
Cool, thanks, sorry, but we need this upfront otherwise it tends to be quite a back and forth process.

This is where I'd land, prices are still crazy and this is already making sacrifices on the GPU and CPU more than I'd like, ideally it would be the 7800X3D along with the 7800XT GPU. I've left out a secondary SSD which I would suggest picking up one dedicated for games but that's really simple to do yourself when you have the cash, I'd suggest something like the P41 2Tb would be ideal and they're not expensive. Without doing that I couldn't get it in budget. But this is a good all rounder and gives you upgrade paths on the CPU and GPU pretty much as high as you want to go so will last a long time

Here's a review with benchmarks of the 7700XT: https://gamersnexus.net/gpus/amd-rx...enchmarks-vs-7800-xt-6800-xt-rtx-4060-ti-more

Case
CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7700 Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-5.3GHz/40MB CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7700 XT GAMING - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR H100x RGB ELITE HIGH PERFORMANCE CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Price: £1,500.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/2VuGWWXeY3/
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Thanks excellent thank you very much for your help, I’ll get this ordered
 
SpyderTracks

SpyderTracks

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XSuperDan said:
Thanks excellent thank you very much for your help, I’ll get this ordered
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That will at least get you started, you'll have space for a couple of games on the main SSD until you can get a secondary dedicated drive for games.

But it's a solid build with loads of upgrade potential.
 
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