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Lukleton

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So TLDR I am getting my own place next year and to commemorate the occasion I am treating myself to a future proof new desktop (returning to PC from my current gaming Laptop) with an intention to start doing some streaming with the time im going to free up from not having to commute. My budget is £5000 for everything (including monitors, keyboards, headset/mics and streaming kit). I am aware this build is quite extra (im treating myself), and conscious that the 4k monitors may not fully utilize the 3090 so I may be pouring money down the drain as a result - would be curious to get the opinion of people far more knowledgeable on this than me to see where I can make the best savings.

PS. It is my intention to eventually upgrade the RAM further but I am likely to purchase this at a later date if I feel I need it (dont' think I will).

Case
CORSAIR 5000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960X 24 Core CPU (3.8GHz - 4.5GHz, 142MB CACHE)
Motherboard
Gigabyte TRX40 AORUS PRO Wi-Fi 6: ATX, USB 3.2 - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
24GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3090 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W HX SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® PLATINUM, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 200 TR4 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
LED Lighting
50cm White LED Strip
Extra Case Fans
2x 120mm Thermaltake TOUGHFAN 12 Case Fans
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy Rx
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Capture/Streaming Cards
AVerMedia Live Gamer 4K - PCIe Card
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Monitor
ASUS VP28UQGL 28" 4K GAMING MONITOR
Monitor
ASUS VP28UQGL 28" 4K GAMING MONITOR
Monitor Cables
1 x 2 METRE GOLD PLATED V1.4 HDMI CABLE
Keyboard & Mouse
Razer® Cynosa V2 Gaming Keyboard
Headsets
Razer Kraken Gaming Headset
Streaming Accessories
Elgato Stream Deck
Webcam
Logitech® HD Webcam C920 - 1080p recording & 720p video calling
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 18 to 21 working days
Price: £5,416.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-trx40-pc/uJcctwf556/
 
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Lukleton

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SpyderTracks said:
Ok, it's entirely wrong then, wrong platform, we can do far better.

What kinds of games?
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My intention atm will be to mostly be playing New World if Amazon ever launches it, ideally with max settings and the ability to stream with such if required. Also will likely play battlefield on it seeing as it’s included with the graphics card haha

I had a feeling it would be wrong so appreciate any help
 
SpyderTracks

SpyderTracks

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For the build, this is a gaming PC, the one you had previously configured was a workstation which wouldn't have worked very well for gaming:

Case
CORSAIR OBSIDIAN SERIES™ 500D SE CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.8GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 Ti - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 7000MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 7000MB/R, 5000MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 18 to 21 working days
Price: £3,465.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/PgRS9TpNQC/
 
sck451

sck451

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With the peripherals, you could probably do better ordering elsewhere. At your budget, I'd consider the Corsair K100 keyboard (£215 on Amazon), the Razer Viper mouse if you want one (£90 on Amazon) and the Astro A40 headset (£102 on Amazon). For monitors, the G9 is completely amazing: another option slightly cheaper would be the Gigabyte FO48U, which is 4K OLED 120Hz and will apparently come out soon...

Twin monitors aren't a good idea for gaming, as you'd normally only use one at a time. A larger monitor like the Samsung G9 (or the Aorus) gives you all the benefits and none of the drawbacks. If you want a second display for streaming (and you probably don't need to), you can get a cheaper monitor to mount at the side, perhaps vertically: there, 1080p 60Hz is probably plenty, and hundreds of pounds cheaper.
 
SpyderTracks

SpyderTracks

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Lukleton said:
Much appreciated, what would you recommend if I wanted to go 2x27”
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For a suitable monitor you'd need 4k 144Hz, 27" is generally considered too small for 4k with 32" being the minimum.

There is only one currently in budget:

www.scan.co.uk

AORUS 31.5" AORUS FI32U 4K 144Hz SS IPS Freesync Premium Gaming Monitor

Buy from Scan - 31.5" AORUS FI32U 4K Gaming Monitor, SS IPS, 3840x2160 144Hz, 1ms, FreeSync, HDR, 1000:1, 350cd/m², HDMI 2.1/DP 1.4
www.scan.co.uk www.scan.co.uk

Then as the secondary monitor you can get whatever you want, just a standard 60Hz display as it won't be used for gaming at all.
 
sck451

sck451

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The only thing to be aware of with the G9 is if you're streaming. It's a very unusual aspect ratio (32:9), and you would almost always stream in 16:9 aspect ratios (I'm not aware of platforms that would support other options). So for a streaming-centric rig, that's a mark in favour of a 16:9 option, because what you see will match what you'll be able to stream.
 
SpyderTracks

SpyderTracks

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sck451 said:
The only thing to be aware of with the G9 is if you're streaming. It's a very unusual aspect ratio (32:9), and you would almost always stream in 16:9 aspect ratios (I'm not aware of platforms that would support other options). So for a streaming-centric rig, that's a mark in favour of a 16:9 option, because what you see will match what you'll be able to stream.
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You just set a 16:9 window for the game stream. People don't seem to understand picture in picture. There's literally no use case where the G9 doesn't fit.

Even on a standard 4k monitor, you'd have to down the stream to 1080p, so no matter what screen you're using, you'll have to reduce the stream in one way or another.
 
sck451

sck451

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SpyderTracks said:
You just set a 16:9 window for the game stream. People don't seem to understand picture in picture. There's literally no use case where the G9 doesn't fit.

Even on a standard 4k monitor, you'd have to down the stream to 1080p, so no matter what screen you're using, you'll have to reduce the stream in one way or another.
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Yeah, fair enough: not terribly well-phrased on my part. If most of your gaming will be streaming, you won't be making the most of the G9 is what I mean. That's not a problem: it just wouldn't be pushing it to its limits.
 
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DarTon

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I'd consider the 2TB Firecuda 530 over the Samsung 980 Pro for storage. Not much in it though.

I'd agree that a 27in is a bit of waste of 4K. You could go for 2x32 4K panels. There are about 10 of them about to be launched in the next few months. You have the Gigabyte FI32U at £900 but I'd just go for the Gigabyte M32U at £750. Same panel, same everything really, except lack of some RGB. Or the Asus PG32UQ (not the UQX which is £3k). They all seem to suffer from weaknesses though. I don't think we've quite got the "perfect" 32in 4K IPS panel yet.

If you want a 27in 4K then the LG 27GP950-B is probably the panel you want. Better than the Samsung 4K IPS flat panel but also more expensive.
 
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